Is it safe?

[Chester]

Don't be afraid to speak your mind will you.

[non-stick]

Can't stand these people that sit on the fence :-)

[Spiggy]

I'm sorry - I don't mean to be rude but her posts are just gobsmacking. Somebody really needs to tell her to put a sock in it, it's all very old.

[Della]

zenaphobia Wrote:if there was a al qaeda type of attack on B/stoke

In that very unlikely event, I doubt a chinook would be of much use. They didn’t play a part in the London bombings.

Chester Wrote:I think there is a difference between emergency landing and crash landing. ………They don't practice in built up areas. The field they landed in certainly wasn't one.

I agree which is why I said emergency landing. They practice over the residential area where I live and over the business park where I work. I would say that constitutes practising in build up areas.

Xtro Wrote:A while ago a commercial airliner had to make an emergency landing at Heathrow passing over large built up residential areas. Using your logic, perhaps we should shut Heathrow just in case for safety reasons, along with all other airports.

A very good point Xtro and probably the only sensible counter-argument I have heard on this thread. When I saw aerial photos of where that plane crashed, I thought at the time that I wouldn’t want to live at the end of that runway as I wouldn’t feel safe. Perhaps there should be a bigger exclusion zone around Heathrow for safety reasons.

expat Wrote:

Xtro Wrote:It strikes me that your concerns over noise and now safety are bogus and simply straw man arguments to support what you really want - the closure of RAF Odiham.

I think she would be happy if it just moved. NIMBY and all that

No Xtro is right again. I don’t want to move something that I can’t stand to where other people live. I want it shut. Shut Odiham. Get rid of the aircraft. Make the people redundant. No straw man, I want it gone. AWE can then follow. As for Odiham being there first, it might have been but the noise was barely noticable when I moved here; either the routes have changed or the amount of flying has increased.

zenaphobia Wrote:Hi Della - are you prepared to move - we'll try to support the move!

Well at risk of repeating a previous thread, yes I want to move. I am looking for a 1 or 2 bedroom flat or maybe bungalow with no garden/gravel garden, parking for 1 car (garage/drive/street/car park, doesn’t matter which), ground floor or with a lift, in a city or large town in England, up to £250K. Now can anyone find me an area where there will be no military flying? I previously tried but the military don’t put up the flight routes for helicopters so the only option I found and seriously looked into was the exclusion zone around Heathrow airport. If you really want to support my move, find me a city without military flying.

Abaddon Wrote:GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR A&$E.

I think I can speak for most of the people who read this forum in saying we are sick & tired of your soap box tirade against Chinooks.

They are a necessary part of the military & if you don't like it you've got 2 options

1 Leave the country.
2 Stop whinging.
Your choice.

I get pretty tired of that thread about football that goes on and on and word association as well, plus all of the TV threads. The point is that the forum is for everyone and if you don’t like a particular subject, you can just not click on it.

As for leaving the country, I was born here and I am British. Even if I ‘go back home’, I would still be driven mad by British military chinooks.

Don't shout at me. Don't swear at me. I don't post things like that at you. We don't like each other so either get used to it or go as I am going nowhere.

Spiggy Wrote:Well said. Her(?) ongoing ranting and opinion to all things is a real turn off and borders on rude. Is this a forum or her own personal blog, because she is incredibly tedious to read I must say.

It's quite one thing to have a dominant personality with lively debate - but she comes accross, quite simply, a bad tempered, obnoxious, rude old trollop.

You post that and complain that I am rude? Personal attacks are unnecessary and the idea that you question whether I am female because I am confident and assertive amazes me. I didn’t think there was anyone left with such old-fashioned views.

As for a personal blog, it drives me mad that no-one else will start a thread. It would be great to see the forum lively with a lot of different subjects but that will only happen if other people post about other things that interest them. I don’t post every day and only average 2 or 3 posts a day so you would think that others would step in but it seems this forum is only lively when everyone is arguing.

[Spiggy]

Quote:You post that and complain that I am rude? Personal attacks are unnecessary and the idea that you question whether I am female because I am confident and assertive amazes me.

It's not a personal attack. You come across as arrogant, obnoxious and plain rude and try to justify it by defining it as 'confident and assertive'. If you really were 'confident and assertive' you would be comfortable enough with yourself not to try and argue with the world all of the time.

I AM confident and assertive and happy to tell you what plenty of other people are probably thinking. If you think that is rude then you may just understand how YOU come across here.

Quote:As for a personal blog, it drives me mad that no-one else will start a thread.

Which is no excuse for creating an ever decreasing circle where Basingstoke is represented by your views. Google 'Basingstoke' and in seconds it takes people to YOU ranting all the time. I'm sorry if you don't like it or consider it 'old fashioned' to point it out, but if you fly with the crows don't bleat when you get shot at.

Susan

[Della]

I would say that "a bad tempered, obnoxious, rude old trollop" are a personal attack and was rude and I don't think that I am being over-sensitive saying that. I took particular exception to trollop, " a vulgar or disreputable woman; especially : one who engages in sex promiscuously or for money" which I do not think is a fair description or anything that you could possibly know about me from my posts.

However, perhaps you didn't mean it like that and I'll hold my hands up to arrogant and obnoxious. The thing with writing on the internet is that perhaps what we write doesn't come across as we intended. Perhaps you didn't mean to insult me. Perhaps I don't mean to do whatever annoys you so much that you bothered to join just to argue about it.

I certainly don't claim to represent Basingstoke and can't be held responsible for google.

[Spiggy]

Please just listen to yourself! Contrary to your ego, I joined as I live in Basingstoke - I felt that was the only pre-requisite to take part? Am I treading on some toes? Is the town bully not happy with me?

If you don't like the words I've used to describe you - stop projecting in that style. Really it is a case of the quieter you become, the more you may just hear. Take some free advice; consider what __you__ do more, and spend a little less time worrying about what other people do.

I'm sure you'll feel the need to respond but it's not really worth any more of my time - but go ahead and have the last word and match the image I hold of you.

[Moorial]

YAWN

I know its terrible that we have armed forces in this country, horrendous that the men and women flying chinnooks need to go and help out around the country (as well as abroad)

Yes I am PRO-CHINNOOK and I actually use them flying overhead as a prompt to pray for our troops and the people of Afghanistan.

[T101]

(03-03-2010 09:30 PM)Spiggy Wrote:  Please just listen to yourself! Contrary to your ego, I joined as I live in Basingstoke - I felt that was the only pre-requisite to take part? Am I treading on some toes? Is the town bully not happy with me?

If you don't like the words I've used to describe you - stop projecting in that style. Really it is a case of the quieter you become, the more you may just hear. Take some free advice; consider what __you__ do more, and spend a little less time worrying about what other people do.

I'm sure you'll feel the need to respond but it's not really worth any more of my time - but go ahead and have the last word and match the image I hold of you.

I've never found Della rude. I might think she is wrong but it's an opinion. I don't like your tone much though. Perhaps you should stop projecting in that way (is that how it works? I I don't like what you say, so you must stop saying it)

[Moorial]

http://www.basingstokegazette.co.uk/news...come_home/

Its an old story but its an example of the rescue capabilities of our chinnook fleet